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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Doom Reply with quote

It's not coming out until October, but I've heard a lot about it. They aired the trailer and some clips at the ComicCon in San Diego. Apparently, it was a hit.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050601f.php
http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=9836

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I had written DOOM off after all the word starting coming out on how there was no Hell, no Mars and no creatures from the games. If they cut out Hell and Mars and creatures, then they were obviously going for a PG-13. I figured why the hell call it DOOM? I had really written it off as yet another shitty video game adaptation.

However, at the panel today they revealed some surprises... Id Software has been involved since the beginning, the producers, filmmakers and stars all wanted to make a movie that respected the source material and the studio was willing to put it out R-rated.

Confirmed in the movie: MARS! IMPS! HELLKNIGHT! THE BARON! PINKY DEMONS! GORE!

This made me smile. They premiered the trailer and then showed a clip that truly won me over... I'll get to those after the tidbits of info gleaned from the panel featuring producers John Wells, Lorenzo DiBoneventura, Todd Hollenshead (Id CEO), Karl Urban and The Rock.

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-Karl Urban is the main character, not The Rock, who plays Sarge. The Rock liked that character better.

-Karl and The Rock both played the original DOOM {game} as well as its sequels, especially DOOM 3.

-The Rock on the film: "It's unapologetic as hell, faithful and gory."

-The Demons and Monsters are based off of the creatures in DOOM 3.

-They recreated sets directly from the game, like corridors and labs and even made the computer screens in the movie have the same style as what's on the computer screens in the game.

-Why The Rock wanted to do the DOOM movie: "I realized I could shoot the BFG."

-All the Army guys are were trained by SAS honcho Tom McAdams.

-The BFG was huge, according to The Rock.

-Stan Winston created most of the monsters, with the creative team behind the movie deciding against overusing CG.

-The monsters are big, most between 6 and 9 feet tall (and these are practical effects).

-"The intensity of the game is in the movie," said The Rock. From minute 5 we're there. Non-stop train ride to Hell."

-The young screenwriter Dave Callaham is very protective of the game.

-Lorenzo on the plot: He wouldn't go into it much but he did say, "A team on Mars chasing real evil, bad things."

-When pressed about differences between the games and the movie, Lorenzo said that we'll see how the monsters came about (Maybe this means no hell? Not sure.) and the evil little buggers get a chance to fuck up the Earth. Interesting...

TRAILER & CLIP:

The trailer was really polished and sweet looking. I'd bet you'll see it very soon, either online or in theaters. The atmosphere looks very much like DOOM 3. The corridors are right out of the game with the steel grating and claustrophobic walls.

In the trailer we get to see zombies and glimpses of the rest of the creatures as well as The Rock firing the BFG at an Imp. The look of the blast and the sound of it could have been lifted straight out of the game. Overall it was pretty cool.

The clip was what got me. It was about 3 minutes and it was called FPS something or other and there is a reason for it. We were told before it played that the clip showed something that hasn't been done in film before... they're kind of right... this has been done (POV... DePalma and Carpenter specifically use it well), but not in the context in which they did it.

The clip begins with Karl Urban a little beat up, sitting on the floor with his back to a cabinet. There's a girl in the room with him. He falls and goes unconscious (at first I thought he had died) as the camera pushes into his eye. After a bright flash we're in Urban's POV. He gets to his feet, looks around the room. It's empty. No girl. He walks to a mirror and we see Urban (reflection), wiping a line of blood from his cheek. He locks and loads a gun and leaves the room.

This is where it really got me geeky. I love FPS (First Person Shooters) games and that love started with DOOM and Wolfenstein back in the day. So, it stands to reason that I loved the clip that followed because it was all done as a live action first person shooter.

The sounds, the score (temp, natch), the lighting and the sets were all straight out of the game. From the second he walks out the door, you hear the creatures and zombies. He comes upon the zombies first, taking them out with shots to the chest, then head. The gun is lower right screen the whole time. After a zombie or creature is shot, the gun ducks below frame and the reloading sound happens.

The camera movement, the strife moves... all looks great... a real live action video game sequence. It's pretty specific in the details... like the zombies are fairly easy to kill, while the Imps take a few more shots to kill and the big clawed fuckers take a lot of ammo... matter of fact, in the video, the first time we see one of these guys he gets about 5 seconds of ammo pumped into him before the gun tilts over and shoots the explosive tank next to it covering the demon in flames. The demon claws at itself as if trying to tear at the flames.

There are jump moments here that are great, like turning a corner, looking to one direction, seeing a blood-covered closed door, turning in the other direction and seeing nothing... walking down the corridor, then turning back to see a zombie right there. A quick shot from the shotgun (it changes from automatic rifle to shotgun about halfway through the scene) takes his head right off.

Most importantly the atmosphere survived. The scene shown was more actiony, but even here you can see how dark the corridors are, how the tight the space is...

I was really shocked. This panel completely turned me around. The whole movie might be bullshit, but this whole sequence was kick-ass... My favorite part... after shooting a ton of Imps and reloading, the camera is moving down a dark corridor. It pans casually to the left to see a vague shape and sends off one shot in a knee-jerk way. After a beat we see that the shape was Karl Urban's face. It was the reflection of the POV and there's a bullet mark on the steel or whatever the reflective surface was. I've done that a dozen times while playing. That made me smile.

The clip ended with one of the big fuckers swiping at us and hitting us. You hear Urban grunting and then he's knocked off the ledge (still all in POV). He grabs a grenade (looked more like a timed mine from the GoldenEye game), places it on the floor and rolls out of the way as the big fucker jumps down. The explosive goes off and the left hand blocks some of the exploding creature as it comes up to block the debris and blinding flash.

This was all about 3 minutes and Lorenzo said that it was only half of what the FPS sequence is.

If the whole movie had been shot like this it would have been very interesting, but would alienate a huge part of the audience. I love that they made this nod to the fans as well as showing a sequence uniquely. Maybe a certain videogame director can learn a thing or two from this bit, at least. They made a section feel and look like part of the game without editing in footage from DOOM 1 or 2.


That's from a site called "Aint It Cool."

Anybody here play DOOM? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've played doom when it first came out..back in the day...I have been keeping track of the doom movie and I can't wait until it comes out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i remember playing doom when it first came out, played all of them since.

i think the movie will be based on Doom3 though.

With the rock as that Sarge guy, who has grey hair in the game. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well not exactly based on the game.no hell in the movie Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well it's understandable, if there was hell in the movie, im sure some people would have issues about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, the cast really has changed. the unlucky space marine was supposed to be that guy that shot Bourne's girlfriend in the Bourne Supremacy. Now i just need to know when the Halo movie is coming out...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this movie blows, I'll cry.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm expecting it to be a bit crap.
but im sure it'll be another mediocre game based film Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol I'm excited about the first person part
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the Faith. Harder said than done.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's going to up there with Alien vs Predator. Either a hit or a miss.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no hell in the movie.


Hell is a hard stunt to pull off in a movie. You either get it right on, or it's a total bumble-fuck. So. I'd rather they didn't even try if they knew they couldn't do it right.

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The unlucky space marine was supposed to be that guy that shot Bourne's girlfriend in the Bourne Supremacy.


Wha...? Question The guy who shot Bourne's gf (Karl Urban) is playing the part of John Grimm. Is that the unlucky space marine you're talking about?

Oh yeah, and here's the trailer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm retarded. shutup.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a few months after the movie comes out (supposing it's sucesful, and it will be) I can't wait to get my hands on a full size model of the bfg.

Wait wait wait... these monsters are frikken mutants? There doesn't seem to be any hell anymore...

Bah if they're not going to be faithful to the source then it's not worth my time. id had the guts to put a religously sensitive game on the market, why can't the film makers?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

because the filmmakers are studiobitches!!!they need the money 'n' stuff.
but what i see from the trailer it looks to be an okay movie.it got imps,hellknights.sounds fine. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe they're saving hell for Doom2? Ya know, like a trilogy or something. Perhaps they're fighting their way to hell throughout the movie?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hivequeen wrote:




Oh yeah, and here's the trailer.
Ok it's offical. Hive..I love you Wink in a non-stalker kind of way. I have been waiting for that trailer for months now and you found it for me. I'm so happy. Good trailer. Looks like a good ass kicking movie.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BFG20K!!!! MUST. AQUIRE. I really hope they have a toy line or this or something, i cant go without that BFG.

also, at 50 seconds into the trailer (when the power goes out) look at the guy on the left. does his weapon look like a PULSE RIFLE or is it just me?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the machine guns look similar to the pulse rifle. but i wanna see the big fucking gun
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the pulse rifle is what people expect from futuristic space-age marines. Big, heavy, kills bugs dead.

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Maybe they're saving hell for Doom2? Ya know, like a trilogy or something. Perhaps they're fighting their way to hell throughout the movie?


*Sigh*

"The last 10% of the human genome has been discovered."

It's mutants man, mutants. No mention of the teleportion experiments or anything. There is no hell, just mutants and the BFG. It's a perversion of the source material I know, but the movie makers are gutless faggots.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may be mutants, but they can still be "demons". Perhaps the "final 10% of the human genome" is pure hellish evil? There might be something very Non-Science about the final 10%...

I may have to eat my words, but I think this movie is still gonna be great.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares? It amry guys getting killed by monsters. Which BTW looks cool. ANd from what I've heard, It's NOT going to be PG-13. It's going to be R. Blood n' guts here we come. w00t!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After they do a last minute screw-up with Doom, ignoring everything they've promised to do until now(including the latest, "positive" news), it becomes box office gold(What the fuck that does even MEAN?), they'll(you know. they.) go mad with power and immediately spew out a second movie, called Doom II: The Revelation. In the second movie, it turns out that Hell indeed had a hand(claw? tentacle?) in the events of the first movie and the aforementioned, ominuous 10%. Then they basically invade Hell, spitting out stupid one-liners and Master Chief makes a cameo role, wearing armour, sponsored by Pepsi.

Looking at that now, it doesn't make much sense. I'm sure some of you actually understood that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Digitaaliklosetti wrote:
Looking at that now, it doesn't make much sense. I'm sure some of you actually understood that.


It makes perfect sense. I'm 99% sure that's whats gonna happen. The trailer looks great, but they fuck up the movie to a boring, generic, mindless, and cliché action film.

But I'm 100% sure that Digitaalkloseti would be correct about the name of the sequel. Doom II: The Revelation. It's inevitable.
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