Forbidden Guest Comic, from Dan Kim, Clone Manga

[Digitaaliklosetti]

[holokaustos]

[Simon_Says]

He was molested as a child... noooo ya think?

I mean... look at that hairy chest. That thing should never be seen. That is the chest of the apocolypse damnit!
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[holokaustos]

[Kameleone]

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here, but this conversation topic has gone all kinds of awry. I highly disagree as to the rape/pedophilia/bestiality etc being so darn hilarious, but maybe that's because I was molested as a child, then date raped as a young adult. One way or another, though, I could see the comic being somewhat funny, because Abe is so far beyond anything...normal. But past that, I could see it being offensive to some and hence to show it under limited access, where people have to directly volunteer to see it, was probably the best thing you could have done, Bernie. If one in ten is likely to be highly offended, then making it "their own fault" for seeing it is really the only way to do it.

To go a little past that, though, sometimes people find things funny because they're so far detached from it. Four year olds find it hilarious to watch people explode, until they suddenly realize that they aren't going to come back again, or if they do they'll be in horrendous pain and disfigured. Then all of a sudden they're scared of the "monster," but still detached from the tragedy. Sorry if it's rude to say, but it sounds more like our tactless friend is four than anything else. If he'd(?) been there, he'd(?) probably have a different view. That said: 1.I think it's insensitive if not blatantly rude to comment on whether someone was felt up or worse as a child, and really that's what was said (and laughed about) in the last two postings, after being so offended by the prospect before, 2.I think that anyone who wants to laugh at the misfortune, abuse, and destruction of another person needs to realize what they'd think about being in that person's shoes before doing so in any public manner, assuming they're not four years old anymore, and 3.I think that when a comic strip is being discussed--a comic strip, which is not meant to be serious, or to be a serious part of the real world, that people should chill the fuck out about issues and be willing to discuss it in a manner that involves a bit less mud-flinging and personalization.

And I am not saying any of this from some third-person perspective--I was at one point the victim of a pedophile, and I can still say you are taking this way too damn seriously. C'mon people. It's a joke. Maybe not a good one, but it's still a joke. A few hundred years ago a girl that wasn't married by the age of 12 was an old maid, and half the boys were "experienced" well before 16. Times have changed, and for the better, but let's get some perspective here, and stop making this personal. Please?

[RandomTypePerson]

Actually if you just substitute Abe for Dan in that comic it makes SO much more sense.

[Kameleone]

Sorry, in my previous (omg long) comment, I mentioned the two last comments made. It ended up falling differently than I thought, so know that I meant the second and third comments on this page. Sorry if I offended anyone accidentally.

And substitute dan who for abe? I am so confuzzled...

[AAATripper]

[Holly Resurrected]

People are getting so worked up over this that it's rediculous. There is such thing as black humor. It means taking things that aren't funny and laughing at them anyway. If you don't think the Spanish Inqusition can be funny, you've obviously never seen History Of The World Part 1. Ditto for the holocaust. Ever see The Producers?

[BaconNeggs]

I'm amused at now many definitions of "n00b" there are.

Does anyone happen to know where the Pedo-bear originated from? I think its pretty funny when he shows up, and I've been seeing it alot.


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"You have to quote from books to look clever. You can't quote from films. If you quote from films you just look like a geek."

[Simon_Says]

Dark humour is truely one of the most dangerous realms of comedy. It also has an acquired taste. Alot of people out there in the world will not like this comic, but a select few can laugh at it.

Neither one of these groups is right or wrong, as it's all just a point of view. What do I do? I stick to my group, react accordingly, shut up, and carry on with life. I do not preach the words of my group nor do I care what other people preach. I either love it or hate it and that's the end of it, noone needs to know my position on this subject.

I don't want to be a hypocratic bastard so my lips are sealed on my verdict of this comic.

If this were, say, Holly and Munan's comic, the type of humor intended is completely different and thus merits a different responce: XD for most. That comic would only be concidered bad taste by a few religous zealots, which would be few and insignificant due to the nature of the comic Holly and Munan's comic was based on (would you think the pope would read ALP after seeing Jesus as Abe and Preston's roommate? Maybe that statement was prejudiced by I hope you get the point.). A far safer field of comedy, that appeals to a broader range of audiences.

However some peoples tastes may be specifically suited to particular forms of comedy. Me for example, I prefer satirism, wit, and parody. One of my best friends prefers practical jokes, and unintentional humor. I had to deal with people who thought I was an annoying bastard, and my friend was believed by some to be a sadistic twat.

Dark humour is, as I said, requires a specific and acquired taste. I'm only saying this so both sides could understand eachother, and to prevent any possible flame war.

As I have said, dark humour is a dangerous form of comedy, and anyone posting such stuff on the net, with thousands and perhaps millions of people watching, they'd better know what they are doing.
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[Dorkatron3]

There are a lot of really good points made here, so much so that I don't feel as though I have much to add. It is Dark Humor as Simon Said. Somewhat more to the point, it is a joke about a member of an alien species, a carnivorous alien species, liking kids. A carnivorous allien species that lays it's eggs inside your throat after it rapes your face, and then after a while the babies burst out of your stomach... As much as I hate the phrase, people should probably take a reality check on this one. You don't have any proximity to being molested as a child by a fictional alien life form. That's like arguing a video of Abe coming out of someone's chest, and starting to sing "New York New York" is in bad taste because your mom died while having a C-Section.
I mean, come on people, the comic is funny because it anthropomorphizes and normalizes two fictitious alien species who are either carnivorous or hunt things for the sake of hunting. Who live in an appartment in New York with no jobs. WITH JESUS! Good god... recognize absurdity people... How would a xenomorph even mate with a human?

[Holly Resurrected]

*applause*
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Still internet married to Tripper.

[Winston_C]

[@$$ oh 9]

This topic compels me to respond.
With the exception of the absurd/non-sequitous all humor is built on someones pain -- or humiliation. Many of us, both as individuals and communities, use humor to release ourselves from the painful part of the experience.
Society is full of groups reclaiming derogatory terms. I am an adult, I am black and I laugh when my friends ask what are the three things that they can't give me. And I laugh during the Gimp scene in Pulp Fiction.

Making jokes about things that we are afraid of reminds us that we do not want to be the subject of such jokes. We don't want to fall down the stairs, we don't want to be anally-probed, and we don't want to have our sexual prowess mocked. But we do laugh when it happens to FICTIONAL characters -- and some of us laugh when it happens to our friends.

[AAATripper]

i think most people join up just to be on the userlist, or post once on a single topic and never post again....
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[Holly Resurrected]

[Blaster]

Fascist!
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Context is everything.

[Holly Resurrected]

Only a pinko commie would call me a fascist!
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The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.

Still internet married to Tripper.

[Dorkatron3]

[Kameleone]

Dorkatron, well put. I like your style, and you made a good point in the process. You helped bring a little more sanity to this discussion.

[Agent 47]

[Kameleone]

Glad I don't live in Finland. How very disturbing.