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| The Huge Wing Wong wrote: | | well they are way to feminin(sp?)but who cares how they look?or is someone actually gonna jerk of to a female predator??? |
You're rather missing the point. Nobody's talking about sex here, we're talking about what we think they're supposed to look like, which isn't less legitimate than what anything else is supposed to look like. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying that based off of what I know and my personal preferences, I don't think the first pictures represent a female yautja very well.
| Inkmonkey wrote: | | Okay, so the only thing it really says about appearance is that they're large. So... if the Yautja ladies in the pics at the top were a good 8 feet tall, would that work out? |
Well, the profile says seven feet, as well as a bunch of other stuff I totally didn't want to know, so that's about the same hight or slightly shorter than the original Predator. Not quite accurate.
| Inkmonkey wrote: | | Personally, I'm surprised at the dedication to canon. I know most people I talk to online would just say, "OMG BOOOBIES!!!" and be perfectly happy. |
Well, being a straight girl I have little interest in boobies, but I am interested in things that follow the already established rules, or at least suggestions, set down sy the novels and comics. I don't think everything has to follow the rules, after all I am a fan of the rather improbable Scar/Lex pairing, but I do like things to have a semblance of following the rules. Yeah, I'm way overthinking it, but if I didn't do that, what would I ever do? 
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Now, a rebuttal:
OMG BOOOBIES!!!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Once again your logic defeats me. I die.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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I gotta agree with every thing holly said in her first post on this topic. NO EARINGS! It dons't look right.
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This is good. She's a little more slim than I would have made her, but the armor is great and she looks ready to kill. Maybe she's still young But she's very believable. Not all dolled up, that's for sure.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ditto to Holly.
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First thing I thought of was the Simpsons... hey, that's a good thing, right? DOH!
Anyhoo, burping the worm while looking at a female Yautja? Well, maybe if other forms of porn don't do it for me anymore... and I'm drunk... and stuff...
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About the pictures, I say they're overall okay. The biggest thing I have to quibble with are the three portraits, esp. the 'blissful' one- they just don't fit the label, i.e. 'enraged' looks more sarcastic/snide than angry, and 'blissful' doesn't really look blissful, etc. She's also too scantly clad- just doesn't make sense from a practical standpoint. And I'm not even going to begin on the jewelry. Anything else I think is innaccurate is just my personal speculation on Yautja physiology. As for intent, I don't think it was sexual, because I think a girl drew it all.
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WOAH! These are awsome! I would so hit that! Giggady giggady giggady giggady goo!
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[img]http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/16080089/[/img]
Awwww! If that don't touch my heart.
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| Simon_Says wrote: | Aren't female Predators supposed to be even bigger and badder than the guys in the movies?
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In fact we know nothing about the Yautja females. If they are mammals or oviviparous, the females should be smaller than males, (according to the genetic conformation). Only at some species of insects females are larger than males, and that is because they have one more chromosome. |
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That fenomenon is not restricted to insects. Some reptiles and mammals follow the same trend, one such example is the hiena!
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| amyltrer wrote: | | Simon_Says wrote: | Aren't female Predators supposed to be even bigger and badder than the guys in the movies?
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In fact we know nothing about the Yautja females. If they are mammals or oviviparous, the females should be smaller than males, (according to the genetic conformation). Only at some species of insects females are larger than males, and that is because they have one more chromosome. |
Actually, some mammals display the same gender traits. Chinchillas come to mind...
It's also a good thing you brought the insects up. I personally think that the Yautja came from spiders like we came from monkeys. However, since they seem to reproduce similar to us, they would most likely be classified as protomammals. Seeing as monkeys had to come from somewhere, the Yautja probably skipped a lot of the evolution stages we had to go through and came directly from a much smaller creature. |
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Personally, I think the Yautja evolved from crustaceans/amphibians.
That brings up a reason why I like both Preds and Aliens, they're recognizably alive, but you cannot exactly classify what they are. They're in a sense truely non-terrestrial.
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| amyltrer wrote: | | Simon_Says wrote: | Aren't female Predators supposed to be even bigger and badder than the guys in the movies?
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In fact we know nothing about the Yautja females. If they are mammals or oviviparous, the females should be smaller than males, (according to the genetic conformation). Only at some species of insects females are larger than males, and that is because they have one more chromosome. |
Well, females are never mentioned in any of the movies, but in the comics and novels there's several mentions of females as being larger than the males. "Prey" by Steven Perry and the comic "Deadliest Of The Species" by Chris Claremont come to mind.
Hmm, I feel like I've had this conversation before somewhere...
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| Holly wrote: | | amyltrer wrote: | | Simon_Says wrote: | Aren't female Predators supposed to be even bigger and badder than the guys in the movies?
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In fact we know nothing about the Yautja females. If they are mammals or oviviparous, the females should be smaller than males, (according to the genetic conformation). Only at some species of insects females are larger than males, and that is because they have one more chromosome. |
Well, females are never mentioned in any of the movies, but in the comics and novels there's several mentions of females as being larger than the males. "Prey" by Steven Perry and the comic "Deadliest Of The Species" by Chris Claremont come to mind.
Hmm, I feel like I've had this conversation before somewhere... |
The descriptions of the females and Yautja society in the comics, don't match with a race with such advanced technology. They couldn't evolve so much if they were organised in tribes & clans, and their only life purpose is gaining honour in hunt. |
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Conflict usualy brings progress. Example: In WW2 aviation technology evolved from a 300mph internal combustion engine through a 600mph jet engine to a 900mph rocket engine. The predators are in costant conflict because of their hunting tendencies, this might explane their advanced techology.
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| Telveryon wrote: | | Conflict usualy brings progress. Example: In WW2 aviation technology evolved from a 300mph internal combustion engine through a 600mph jet engine to a 900mph rocket engine. The predators are in costant conflict because of their hunting tendencies, this might explane their advanced techology. |
In predator's society is not about conflict, because their preys are (technologicaly) inferior to them. But if they focus their entire attention on hunting, they won't have time to think at their technology development. And if 80% of them are warriors and hunters (the rest 20% are eta) and spend their time preparing for battle, who constructs thier ships, weapons and rest of the stuff? |
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| amyltrer wrote: | | They couldn't evolve so much if they were organised in tribes & clans, and their only life purpose is gaining honour in hunt. |
Try telling that to the Japanese, The Brits, Scots and the Irish.
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In predator's society is not about conflict, because their preys are (technologicaly) inferior to them. But if they focus their entire attention on hunting, they won't have time to think at their technology development. And if 80% of them are warriors and hunters (the rest 20% are eta) and spend their time preparing for battle, who constructs thier ships, weapons and rest of the stuff? |
That information you posted is sadly not canon, so try not to use it to base an argument. Although, if FOX decides to put it in a movie, then more power to them and to you.
But, the idea of theory based on real-life things would be your best bet, something for instance, I did here at this thread at The Hunted when the question of Predators and technology came up.
EDIT: Here's more theory for you - The Yautja make only so much technology, just enought that they need to get by and do what they do. If we humans had their technology (as it is seen in the Concrete Jungle game) we would use it for greed and to create frivulous stupid crap. Just turn on the TV during the night and watch all the infomercials to see what I mean.
I find the Yautja to be VERY technologically advanced, but not to a point where it invades their instinct for thr hunt, rather it nurtures it as well as their culture without it getting in the way. The Japanese are a perfect example of this. Minus the frivulous crap they churn out, if you see how Japanese workers work in their factories and companies, you will see what I mean. They work like a clan in everything they do. Induviduality is placed in the backseat while group mentality is placed in the front. I believe Predators work the same way.
And also consider this: The Predators have more than enough technology to nuke us to the next plane of higher consciousness. But...they don't. Us humans? We would do it in a heartbeat. Maybe they are selfish in that they want us alive for the hunt, or maybe it's for a more spiritual reasoning or perhaps just actual morals. Either way, it kinda shows their true face when you think of things in that perspective.
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| s² wrote: | | amyltrer wrote: | | They couldn't evolve so much if they were organised in tribes & clans, and their only life purpose is gaining honour in hunt. |
Try telling that to the Japanese, The Brits, Scots and the Irish.
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In predator's society is not about conflict, because their preys are (technologicaly) inferior to them. But if they focus their entire attention on hunting, they won't have time to think at their technology development. And if 80% of them are warriors and hunters (the rest 20% are eta) and spend their time preparing for battle, who constructs thier ships, weapons and rest of the stuff? |
That information you posted is sadly not canon, so try not to use it to base an argument. Although, if FOX decides to put it in a movie, then more power to them and to you.
But, the idea of theory based on real-life things would be your best bet, something for instance, I did here at this thread at The Hunted when the question of Predators and technology came up. |
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But that doesn't make it canon. |
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Which members of Yautja society has humanity encountered? Well, only warriors basically. But absence of evidence does not designate evidence of absence. In canon, humanity has only encountered the hunting aspects of Yautja society. We have not seen the scientists, media celebrities, politicians, etc. But that does not mean they are not there.
The blooding ceremony is definitely a cultural phenomenon, and so is hunting. But for all we know, hunting is probably only a particular, and optional, career choice. In this particular instance, these warriors are the equivilent of our good old geezers in red coats hunting deer to put thier heads on thier cabin wall. Albeit they are much more glorified in thier culture than we do with our good old geezers in red coats.
Our assumption that the entire Yautja society is essentially surrounded by hunting is, to be frank, stupid. It’s like saying that the Brits are a people of Polo-players, or that the Japanese are Bushido-bound knights.
We cannot generalize a whole society by one of its aspects. Yautja technology must have come from somewhere. A species that consists entirely of gung-ho adventurers, who go around hunting things, collecting skulls on the way, couldn’t possibly, ever, and I mean ever, have developed the ability to planet-hop. It just can’t be done.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| amyltrer wrote: | | their preys are (technologicaly) inferior to them. |
I wouldn't call Xenos inferior... ok, they do get their butt kicked in AvP, but that's just because they are an understood race. Plus I think the Hollywood code demands it that the 'ugly creatures' get defeated...
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Aramor wrote: | | amyltrer wrote: | | their preys are (technologicaly) inferior to them. |
I wouldn't call Xenos inferior... ok, they do get their butt kicked in AvP, but that's just because they are an understood race. Plus I think the Hollywood code demands it that the 'ugly creatures' get defeated... |
The 'ugly creatures' are predators. And xenos are the most technologicaly inferior. In fact , they don't have no technology at all. |
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