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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that magazine today at the bookstore, I was considering shelling out my spare change and picking up a copy if only because of the compelling cover art.

Yeah, I agree with you that the current ratings system is fine if properly enforced. Parents are just looking for a simpler way out. If kids can't even get within ten miles of an AO game, then it's harder for them to get them and easier for the parent to do... whatever it is they do. They want to be able to completely place the trust and responsibility of the task of parental censorship in the hands of a figure like Thompson so that it's one less thing to think about or read up on.

The image I mentioned is highly unlikely but I mentioned it to add a bit of unrealism. Or am I the only one who finds an overemphasized emphasis on mystery and secrecy where it's clearly unneccesary amusing? Oh well.

In an ideal system, underaged kids would not get ahold of M-rated games. In an ideal system, parents would constantly verify if their children's activities are wholesome. In an ideal system, parents would know exactly which kinds of games their children can handle and be able to censor beyond the helpful letter on the box.

I think that, most of the time, it just seems to be a lack of comprehension at just how inappropiate the game can be. Like, when children watch movies with their parents, their parents tell them to close their eyes at the explicit parts. The parts with nudity, sex, etc tend to be the ones most censored. At least, that's how it was for me growing up. Parents want the security of knowing that, when they buy a game for little Timmy, that they can trust the ratings system enough so that they'd don't have to watch them plat the entire game and tell them to cover their eyes.

On the other hand though, there are a few games that should set off red flags in a parent's mind if they watch their child play it for a good half hour or so, lack of nudity or sex scenes aside. For the system to effectively work, you need parent involvement in exactly what their children are exposed to.

Sorry if I'm jumping about between ideas here. I should have made the post when vaguely more coherent.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next up on the sex hit list, Fable.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because your character can marry another guy? I bet that would get it banned Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, because the screen blacks out and the bedmates make funny "ooh" sounds. its a sex reference so Fable must die. (not really, i just spent the last 5 hours playing my new character)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... *sigh* I swear Bungie Studios will have a lot of work defending itself from being ass raped form guys like Jack Thompson when they release Halo 3. Cortana doesn't wear any clothes, that's enough of a lure.

Why are these people banning games but not movies? Alot of movies are worse than the worst of video games. Deuce Biggalow for example, or just about any Adam Sandler film. Don't tell me it's harder to get into a movie theater than to buy a video game.

I was able to get in to American Pie. I'm 15 now. I see video game store clerks refusing to sell rated M games to a guy with his 10ish year old son. Games can be easily controlled, movies less so.

So what a glitch in the program or a mod on the net releases questionable material. A patch can be made to fix the glitch, or it can be ignored if it must be intentionally activated. A mod can be refused, simple as that. If the game holds questionable content without need of tampering or searching, the game should be well restricted by both the parent, and the clerk. Developers can do nothing really except have ESRB stamp M or AO on the box.

However a child may simply sneak a peak at a movie when the parents are away. I've done it loads of times. Never once have I been caught. Parents are expected to tell their kids to stay outside when they're watching a movie. But that's a perfect chance for the child to go watch another movie without detection. Besides that strategy doesn't work as from what I can tell, the vast majority of parents let their kids watch Rambo at the age of eight.

*Takes a breath.*

Video games are a seriously misunderstanded media format, and also widely prejudiced. Soccer, hockey, football, all those sports, there is a very high chance a player can get hurt. Badly. With video games we can simulate killing other players, but this is completely safe and any person playing such a game should understand that the game is just a game and the real world has nothing to do with it.

We repeatedly hear music with sexual remarks. We listen to songs about some bum committing suicide. We watch movies where people are murdered, tortured, raped, and have their identities and lives destroyed (to name a few). Despite what many parents think, kids knew what bum sex was at grade six. A vast majority of teenagers nowadays have seen porn, the percentage growing drastically as you rank up the age counter. I swear there probably isn't a 16 year old on Earth with internet access that hasn't ad a glimpse of some slutís yabos.

Sex aint new to these kids anymore. Guess why your granddaughter is wearing those clothes Granny. Nothing can be done about it. The current generation of teens has been drowned in a torrent of "taboo". Not their fault.

Why are video games any different from any other media format? Because they put the player in the role of doing or witnessing "nasty" things? You may not realize it but films do the exact same thing.

So what a game has a few pixilated nipples flying around? So what players can decapitate the avatars of other players. Since when did people think movies were acceptable? Since when did they think any kind of entertainment involving competition acceptable? The Romans built huge stadiums so that a handful of men would kill each other. Samurai were taught from birth to be so obedient that they would kill themselves on their Shoguns command. We teach our children to be ruthless in the pursuit of wealth, fame, glory, and comfort. The stadium has changed but we're still the same species that yelled for blood in the Coliseum in Rome.

Video games are just another entertainment medium, like films or music. I have no doubt eventually people will see these attention seekers like Mr. Thompson are stupid gits and see video games in a similar light to movies or music. But first these people must realize that video games are the next generation of entertainment, like movies and music before it.

If what I just ranted sounded like utter bullshit to you, or you couldn't understand it, or whatever, here's my message in a sentence.

Why are killing demons and hostile aliens worse than boxers beating each others brains out?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tripper wrote:
no, because the screen blacks out and the bedmates make funny "ooh" sounds. its a sex reference so Fable must die. (not really, i just spent the last 5 hours playing my new character)


...You just made my day; I swear to God, I said that EXACT thing a few days back. Laughing

I mean, Fable's obviously a bad, bad game. With its cries of "Ooh, Norbert..." and "Oh my.". God Forbid such filth get into the hands of our children.

...I must admit to having some morbid curiousity as to how it'll be spun. "Homosexuality = Acceptable plus Evil = Part of the game equals AO."
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