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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: War of the Worlds (SPOILERS INVOLVED) Reply with quote

I want my money back. This was a shitfest. Anybody who says they liked it, or it wasn't bad, didn't have their fucking eyes open. My eyes were open, and this movie sucked.

#1 wtf is this red stuff
#2 wtf is anything in this movie, where is the plot, where are the explanations
#3 shut that fucking girl up, feed her to the enemy
#4 (a big one) How come Athens, NY, (I live near there), gets fucking destroyed, everyone is annihilated, Tom is dirty and bloody and barely survives yet, BOSTON, a major city, when they get there, is fucking undisturbed, and the people come out of a townhouse all nice and clean
#5 robbie also comes out of the house, dirtier than a tennessee bum, with the clean people, for one final faeirie fuck with cruise for the happy ending
#6 Borrowed scene from Empire Strikes Back

etc. i gotta catch the bus.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have your opinion, but personally, I thought that movie was wicked awesome.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear lord. I'm an H.G. Wells fan, and I do believe I'll be giving this one a pass.

From the promotional stuff, I really found myself wondering....Someone who has seen it:
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Does disease polish off the aliens, as originally written, or does TC get to be a big hero and outwit/slaughter them all?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the book to be very good. I little confusing during the exodus form London, but otherwise very good.

I'm sad that sci-fi writers nowadays always attribute the success of mankind against extraterrestrial invasions due to human ingenuity. HG Wells had some brains to suggest that we are not the masters of Earth.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: War of the Worlds (SPOILERS INVOLVED) Reply with quote

Dahaka wrote:
I want my money back. This was a shitfest. Anybody who says they liked it, or it wasn't bad, didn't have their fucking eyes open. My eyes were open, and this movie sucked.

#1 wtf is this red stuff
#2 wtf is anything in this movie, where is the plot, where are the explanations
#3 shut that fucking girl up, feed her to the enemy
#4 (a big one) How come Athens, NY, (I live near there), gets fucking destroyed, everyone is annihilated, Tom is dirty and bloody and barely survives yet, BOSTON, a major city, when they get there, is fucking undisturbed, and the people come out of a townhouse all nice and clean
#5 robbie also comes out of the house, dirtier than a tennessee bum, with the clean people, for one final faeirie fuck with cruise for the happy ending
#6 Borrowed scene from Empire Strikes Back

etc. i gotta catch the bus.


1.read the book, if you havent like me, assume its to make the planet good for the aliens

2. Oh just shut the hell up, it's a movie based on a book written many moons ago by a brilliant writer, it doesnt need one.

3.Calm down, at first I found the girl a wee bit frustrating, but hell a movie isnt going to be ruined just because a little whinning from a girl at the begginning.

4. Who gives a flying f**k?

5. in a time of crisis where aliens are coming to kill everyone would you go and take a shower?

6. which? I don't remember

I found it to be a good movie, you got your opinion, I have mine so don't be going hysteric.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just stumbled over this and nearly spit fizzy-drink on my monitor.

Spoiler alert...well, sort of....

The Ultra-Condensed War of the Worlds
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
just stumbled over this and nearly spit fizzy-drink on my monitor.

Spoiler alert...well, sort of....

The Ultra-Condensed War of the Worlds


That ruled.

Personally I loved the movie. That's not to say it wasn't without flaws.

I agree that the Spielbergian Happy Ending sucked. I hated that.

I love Boston, but yes it should have been desimated.

Personally I like how nothing was explained. If you didn't know what was going on, so what? Neither did the characters. They were just trying to survive.

I thought the suspense was great. I really got the impression that nowhere was safe and everyone would be wiped out (dispite the fact that I knew the aliens would be wiped out by micro-orginisms and mankind would be saved.)

I'm also a sucker for alien invasion movies.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Red lichen that was accidentally transported from Mars. Or it was brought over to help the terraformation of Earth.

2. Dude, there's a plot. Read the book. Watch the movie again. There's always a plot.

3. Jesus, what do you think real children would do? They whine and scream enough without an invasion.

4. Dude, do you think the Martians could perfectly land where they wanted to? It's not like they had weather stations that could forcast earth's climate when they were drifting towards us. Also, who gives a fuck?

5. I second what Metal_Pred said.

6. What scene? Maybe you don't realize, most movies borrow heavily off other movies.

Jesus and I haven't seen the movie either. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

desert_drum wrote:
I just stumbled over this and nearly spit fizzy-drink on my monitor.

Spoiler alert...well, sort of....

The Ultra-Condensed War of the Worlds


Lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question Answered: Yes, disease wins.

# The question isn't, what is this red shit, it's why wasn't that question answered in the movie, jackass.

oh yes i know about the borrowing, sickening when it's way too obvious.

#5 Robbie. He had been there for quite some time, with no aliens, all his people were fine there, i would take a shower. You ever walked around covered in blood and human dust for hours?

#4 Go to athens, figure it out. There is NO-ONE, in Athens. These aliens were planning a sophisticated attack for centuries or some shit. And they don't hit major cities hard?

Tom Cruise beat a larger man, who had a shovel, in a fight?
Tom Cruise is 5'7"
Tim Robbins is 6'5", and had, A SHOVEL.
This doesn't happen.

A lot of children can be indifferent in the face of atrocity, back when people were tough.


My goal is to stir it up, yesssss, fly hornets fly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dahaka wrote:
Question Answered: Yes, disease wins.

# The question isn't, what is this red shit, it's why wasn't that question answered in the movie, jackass.

oh yes i know about the borrowing, sickening when it's way too obvious.

#5 Robbie. He had been there for quite some time, with no aliens, all his people were fine there, i would take a shower. You ever walked around covered in blood and human dust for hours?

#4 Go to athens, figure it out. There is NO-ONE, in Athens. These aliens were planning a sophisticated attack for centuries or some shit. And they don't hit major cities hard?

Tom Cruise beat a larger man, who had a shovel, in a fight?
Tom Cruise is 5'7"
Tim Robbins is 6'5", and had, A SHOVEL.
This doesn't happen.

A lot of children can be indifferent in the face of atrocity, back when people were tough.


My goal is to stir it up, yesssss, fly hornets fly.


1.Some things are better not being answered

2. I think in his situation hed be too freaked out for his father and little sister than wanting to take a shower, and who cares if hes dirty anyway? who says that he was there for hours? he might have got in a half an hour ago to all we care.

3. I repeat my precedent statement: who gives a flying f**k? . Does it matter at all?when the aliens put their ships on the earth millions of years ago, do you think they planned 'oh you know there might be a nice big city like Boston right here, lets but a ship there'?

4.meh, the crazy dude with a shovel was crazy, he had it coming.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, the first two points will always go disputed but 3 irks me.

Millions of years to take earth?
What was stopping them. It had to be more like centuries. Those robots are sophisticated enough to wipe out the modern army, no less, colonials or tribal people. Were they waiting because they were afraid of colonials with muskets? If it was millions why not just show up before humans, wipe out the uhhh, uhhh, sabre-toothed tiger? I mean, WTF mate. Explain thyself.

Why wait millions of years to destroy something you could have prevented the existence of. That's backwards! Maybe they had to wait until we became so corrupt that our God had forsaken us.


Periodic rapid climate change can occur on the scale of a couple thousand years and is still in question at the moment so that won't work unless that was H.G. Wells's original defense.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh*

Who gives a fuck. Star Trek isn't scientifically accurate but I watch it anyways because it is entertaining. Fuck, if you didn't like the movie, stop bragging about it and go enjoy somthing you do you like.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would have been one short and sucky movie if it had been a bunch of martians coming down and slaughtering cavemen, dipshit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the cold would still kill them, but then mankind kills himself when he trys to use fancy ray gun of the gods.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dahaka wrote:
Ok, the first two points will always go disputed but 3 irks me.

Millions of years to take earth?
What was stopping them. It had to be more like centuries. Those robots are sophisticated enough to wipe out the modern army, no less, colonials or tribal people. Were they waiting because they were afraid of colonials with muskets? If it was millions why not just show up before humans, wipe out the uhhh, uhhh, sabre-toothed tiger? I mean, WTF mate. Explain thyself.

Why wait millions of years to destroy something you could have prevented the existence of. That's backwards! Maybe they had to wait until we became so corrupt that our God had forsaken us.


Periodic rapid climate change can occur on the scale of a couple thousand years and is still in question at the moment so that won't work unless that was H.G. Wells's original defense.


1. They had to put the ships when there were no or not alot of human beings.

2. in the book they invaded many moons before.

3.We don't know if time affects them as it does on earth, maybe millions of years is 20 years for them.

4. Who says they don't want a challenge?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon_Says wrote:
Star Trek isn't scientifically accurate


*Gasp* Shocked
It isn't?

My world all of a sudden crumbles beneath my very feet...

*Looks down*

Hmm, guess not...
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Yup, how do you explain phasers that vaporise stuff without vapour bursting from the target?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vapour gets destroyed on a molecular level?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... water vapor is molecular stupid.

Destroying it at the atomic level would release a huge amount of hydrogen, oxygen, and other flammable gases (and still release vapour i think).

Destroying at the subatomic level would release huge static electricity (all those protons and eelectorns everywhere, and they could form into hydrogen again and be flammable), as well as (more importantly) releasing lots of neutron radiation.

Some guy said the most likely explanation would be converting the atoms into neutrinos. How this would be done, noone knows, but it would be damn safe. Some scientists measred the effects of neutrinos by taking a swimming pool or somthing, and detectd the transformation of a single chlorine atom to argon by interference by neutrino. Seriously, those buggers are so small and weak you are being bombared by millions of quadrillions of them in your life time and (if your astronomically lucky) a single atom in your ass may be affected.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon_Says wrote:
... water vapor is molecular stupid.


How would you like it if water vapour would call your molecules stupid?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are getting waaay to scientific for me. I cant understand anything you guys are saying. lol
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aramor wrote:
Simon_Says wrote:
... water vapor is molecular stupid.


How would you like it if water vapour would call your molecules stupid?


I just called you stupid, not the molecules. Read a science book.
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Simon_Says wrote:
Aramor wrote:
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... water vapor is molecular stupid.


How would you like it if water vapour would call your molecules stupid?


I just called you stupid, not the molecules. Read a science book.


Hahaha this could go on for hours. Oh, that made my day, Aramor gettin Owned by Simon_says.
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Simon_Says wrote:
Aramor wrote:
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... water vapor is molecular stupid.


How would you like it if water vapour would call your molecules stupid?


I just called you stupid, not the molecules. Read a science book.


Jezus Christ... since when is making a witty comment illegal here...
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