The "new" RPGs

cfos · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: The "new" RPGs

Ok, I get it. None of the previous RPGs had kids. Now all of them do. Fable II has kids and you start as one. Fallout 3? You start as a baby. Yup, a baby.
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Simon_Says · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject:

I have no idea what this topic is about, since the title doesn't tell jack squat. But on the subject of children in video games, are they killable? If so then it's about time the people behind the ratings started easing up on the censorship. Child killing is something that should be allowed in games, but definitely behind an M rating.

If not, well it's still high time. Although I was never really bothered by it I did find Oblivion's general lack of not just children, but families, a little strange. Almost everyone was single in the Cyrodiil. Well I guess it explains why a provinces' entire civilian population totaled at about 1000 or so.
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Frost · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject:

In all honesty, one of my least important but biggest peeves with Oblivion was that the morality of the whole place and the legal system was all out of wack.

You murder someone and you spend a week in jail or pay a couple hundred gold? You murder the guards trying to arrest you and they tack on a couple hundred more gold? Seriously? If murdering children was even possible, would you even get life sentence in Oblivion?

Anywho, that's neither here nor there: Child killing.

I really think that in a mature game with realistic and mature aspects of good and evil, killing children is acceptable (in a game). Personally, I think killing children is easily one of the worst things a human being is capable of and should be treated as such in games, never glorified or taken lightly, even in the world of a electronic entertainment.

And god would it piss some people off if they had children dying in games...
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Aramor · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:09 am Post subject:

Fallout 1 and 2 had kids.

You needed special patches in Europe though to see them...
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cfos · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject:

Azrael · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:31 am Post subject:

Well in Fable II, the children can be targteted with the safety off, but even then they are not highlighted red, so they can't be killed, I know, I tried...

There are several games where you can kill children already, but there aren't many of them. I remember you can kill children in the first two Fallout games, you even get branded "Child Killer" for doing so, and the karma meter gets upset. I have not yet encountered children in Fallout 3, so I can't say for sure yet.
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cfos · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:23 am Post subject:

There are kids-a-plenti in Fallout 3. In fact, you can unlock a "perk" that allows you to talk to them "better" -- open up new dialogue. Forgot what it is called. Focusing (myself) on "gun-nut" and a few others.
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Aramor · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

That reminds me of playing Fallout II with a very low intelligence. There's this one character that's normally very dumb when you talk to him, but with a low int, you talk just like him, you can't do 75% of the quests, but if you talk to that guy, there's like this hyper intelligent conversation.
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Simon_Says · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject:

Quotes would be nice.
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Aramor · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject:

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Aramor · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:39 am Post subject:

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cfos · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:24 am Post subject:

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cfos · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:36 am Post subject:

I have no clue what y'all are talking about. Can someone explain this "dogmeat" stuff? I imagine it is more than just killing a dog and getting "dogmeat".
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Satan Crime Wash · Gender: Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 1980

There was a dog follower in Fallout called Dogmeat. People have a tremendous affection for his suicidal charges into laser force fields, and his massive AP score. He was very useful for harassing the enemy. Saved my life once when he knocked over a Super Mutant with a critical hit, just as Mutie-boy was about to finish me off.

There's a dog follower in F3, too, but I haven't got him yet. The only follower I've met so far is Jericho, and he doesn't like me because I'm not evil.
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Aramor · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject:

Dogmeat is like every real Fallout player's wet dream.

Just like Ian, except he's the exact opposite. He kept shooting you in the back and stuff and it has actually become a sport on the NMA forum to think up creative and evil ways to kill him.
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