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cfos

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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: Grammar masters! UNITE! |
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Here is the sentence fragment (slightly modified):
"... between the response at the end and that in the middle of the time period, hence the latter was ommitted..."
To what is "latter" referring? "end" or "middle"? Usually, in a fragment like this I would say that the word that is listed second is considered the "latter" in this case "middle". However, being that the issue described is "time", could the author be thinking that the "end" is what is meant as "latter"? _________________ "If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak." |
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Aramor

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Hmm... we'll need Ipsa for this one. _________________
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cfos

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Almost done with this manuscript. Aside from starting out the first sentence with 4 prepositional phrases, this phrase ranks high in the WTF? column.
"...were placed in another clear plastic cages..." _________________ "If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak." |
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Ipsa

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Grammar masters! UNITE! |
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| cfos wrote: | Here is the sentence fragment (slightly modified):
"... between the response at the end and that in the middle of the time period, hence the latter was ommitted..."
To what is "latter" referring? "end" or "middle"? Usually, in a fragment like this I would say that the word that is listed second is considered the "latter" in this case "middle". However, being that the issue described is "time", could the author be thinking that the "end" is what is meant as "latter"? |
I would guess that the author meant the "middle of the time," especially if there isn't anything that's significant about the middle time. If there wasn't anything that made the end time any different at all from the middle time, then it would make sense that the end time is being omitted. But I'm just going on what you've given us so I'm gonna say the middle time is what is being referred to, unless you have some more of the sentence which would help to clarify matters.
| cfos wrote: | | "...were placed in another clear plastic cages..." |
And these are people with advanced degrees?  _________________ "Yeast devil! Back to the oven that baked you!" |
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Aurelyn Moderator

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Is this a paper you're reviewing? I hope for the author's sake english is not their first language. Otherwise they're handing PhDs out far too easily these days...
Edit: Phew, glad I spotted that mistake. That was close - I was nearly buried under a ton of irony there! _________________ Da Fro-mastah of da aLp Forums!
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cfos

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: |
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@ Ipsa, Yeah after rereading the manuscript several times (I edited it slightly when typing above) they are talking about the "middle".
@ Aure: They are Sal's countrymen and countrywomen. It isn't THAT bad of a paper... they authors just phrased things awkwardly and had an odd choice of vocabulary. _________________ "If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak." |
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Aurelyn Moderator

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Well, the awkward phrasing is surely fair enough if you're writing in your second (or possibly third or fourth) language. _________________ Da Fro-mastah of da aLp Forums!
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cfos

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I agree. Nevertheless, editing is required. Typically, I would suggest that the authors consult a... what did I say... "... the authors should allow a reviewer experienced in English to review this manuscript...".
On a similar note, I just submitted a manuscript (#14). Elsevier has dramatically improved their journals websites making it very easy to submit. _________________ "If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak." |
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Blaster Moderator

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Every time I see this thread I want to make the "DYSLEXICS, UNTIE!" joke. _________________ Context is everything. |
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Twistys

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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Jreikng off too otefn csueas dlsyxeia...
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Aramor

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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think that's how you spell dyslexics... _________________
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amyltrer

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: |
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grammar? English grammar? Gosh, I'm out of here! _________________
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Aramor

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Ironically, that post is completely correct.
Besides the lack of a capital at the start of it. _________________
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Alternate Spideygal

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Sooo...Shouldn't the title for this thread be named "Grammar Nazis! Unite!" instead of "Masters?"
I honestly shouldn't even be in here. The Queen of Innuendo has no place among the Grammar Masters of this fine forum!
And by "Masters" I mean Nazis. _________________
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Aurelyn Moderator

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, at least you always spell your innuendo correctly. _________________ Da Fro-mastah of da aLp Forums!
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Alternate Spideygal

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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That's because I'm a pervert. _________________
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Satan Crime Wash

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm faintly amused that one of the ads at the bottom of the page is "Writing A Essay". _________________
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Keetaur
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I was going to comment on how useless this thread was until I relaized that it is Utter B.S. |
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Twistys

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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yeah, this is the cemetary for the uttelry useless threads.
God damn, the ads really know... Online Enlish Tests and Grammar Check. Google is spying us. _________________ "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" |
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Aurelyn Moderator

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Keetaur wrote: | | I was going to comment on how useless this thread was until I relaized that it is Utter B.S. |
Of all the threads in which to misspell a word... _________________ Da Fro-mastah of da aLp Forums!
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| Simon_Says wrote: | | Sal would know. He stole many jobs from guys named Shaun. |
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Azrael
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Keetaur wrote: | | I was going to comment on how useless this thread was until I relaized that it is Utter B.S. |
Damnit Aurelyn, you just had to be here before I was... _________________ Only the strongest will survive.
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Aramor

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Alternate Spideygal wrote: | | That's because I'm a pervert. |
That sounds really weird coming from a girl. I mean, name something you find perverted... most guys will probably call it arrousing. _________________
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Azrael
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Meh, I've heard that from girls before. _________________ Only the strongest will survive.
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Aurelyn Moderator

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| Azrael wrote: | | Meh, I've heard that from girls before. |
So have I - I think right before I went:
"You're into what?!"
And probably then:
"Well, okay then..." _________________ Da Fro-mastah of da aLp Forums!
| Master Chainsaw wrote: | | Aurelyn becomes enraged by imbecilic displays of illiteracy, as is his wont. |
| Simon_Says wrote: | | Sal would know. He stole many jobs from guys named Shaun. |
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Twistys

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Hey, wait a minute... Have we met somewhere? _________________ "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" |
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