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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I finally went to see this. And this is what I thought...


What a load of bollocks. How could anyone after seeing the shambolic mess that was AvP1 actually go and make a movie as bad as this. Terrible script, bad acting, characters so wooden and unsympathetic I was praying that the lot of them would get slaughtered so as to spare me a few cringes everytime one of them spoke. "People are dying out there! We need guns!" The predator was back in full-on man-in-rubber-suit mode, and the predalien was so unbelievably lame I'm surprised that people didn't die laughing at it before it killed them. It looked like what happens if an alien impregnates a bicycle. The only saviour in the middle of this pile of shit was the alien (the original), as cool as ever.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only saviour in the middle of this pile of shit was the alien (the original), as cool as ever.


And that's why it's called Alien versus Predator and not the other way around. Aliens rock!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen to that. I'm not saying the Predator isn't cool, but it really hasn't been done justice since Arnie kicked its ass in the first film.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you Aurelyn. But then again...I only went to watch AVP:2 to ogle Wolf. He was yummy. But the acting was just not good. I spent half the movie waiting for them to die. My best friend kept falling asleep and everyone in the theater were cheering every time someone died. I swear if they do a part 3...please let it be done by a good director. Or better yet...have a collaboration between John McTiernan and James Cameron with Ridley Scott as back up. I would die a happy woman if that happened.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would die a happy woman if that happened.


I would kill a happy woman if that happened. After making sweet love to her ofcourse.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would die a happy woman if that happened.


I would kill a happy woman if that happened. After making sweet love to her ofcourse.


Are you coming onto me?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got around to seeing it two weeks ago or so and I have to admit that I liked it.
I liked the predator, I liked the aliens and I liked the predalien (even though it took a while for me to get used to it). At first I thought he was fairly lame, but he grew on me.
I don't really get how it's anything like a bicycle unless bikes are huge bipedal monsters with dreadlocks where you come from...but anyway.
I didn't know we were really supposed to be paying attention to the humans. I have thought the humans were annoying in all the Predator movies and half the Alien ones. So nothing new there. Of course I was waiting for them to die; that is what everyone was doing.
I guess I am going to be alone in this opinion but I preferred it over AVP1.
I would have liked there to be less human drama in it and it did have it's flaws, but overall I really liked it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternate Spideygal wrote:
Arm Romeo wrote:
Alternate Spideygal wrote:
I would die a happy woman if that happened.


I would kill a happy woman if that happened. After making sweet love to her ofcourse.


Are you coming onto me?


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No, but if you let me make sweet love to you I'll come into you. Or onto you... whatever you like better.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have thought the humans were annoying in all the Predator movies and half the Alien ones. So nothing new there. Of course I was waiting for them to die; that is what everyone was doing.
I guess I am going to be alone in this opinion but I preferred it over AVP1.
I would have liked there to be less human drama in it and it did have it's flaws, but overall I really liked it.


Oh, you're not alone - I preferred it over AvP1 too, which I spent most of crying into my beer about how far we'd come from Aliens. And to address your point about the humans being annoying, there is no point to a horror movie if you don't give a shit if the characters die or not. See the first trilogy. Every single character was badass and cool, or at least had a bit of depth, so you actually engaged with the setting. AvP2 sums up what's wrong with the bloody science fiction film industry these days - all special effect in an attempt to sell more plastic toys and video games. Absolute shite.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...

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No, but if you let me make sweet love to you I'll come into you. Or onto you... whatever you like better.


must...resist...urge...to...post...porn

how to: cuming onto spider-girl

somehow,i think i didnt make it.oh whadeva.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aurelyn,
You are right about the "engagement factor". I never connected to the human characters in the two Predators because I don't really care for Danny Glover and I don't really care for Schwarzenegger, but they are both great films. And of course the first three Alien movies are great, but the Predator and the Aliens movies are different films from AVP. They actually tried to make them good. Instead of just action. I think the very nature of a "versus" film is sort of silly and so I view them as such. I don't put nearly as much thought into the AVPs as I would the other movies because they're just for mindless entertainment, in my opinion. I have to admit that I didn't think the acting was that horrible. At least not as bad as you found it. I mean, the blonde girl who gets shurikened in the hospital was pretty bad, but everyone else was on the same level as any other stupid movie that's out now.
And with AVP:R they had to try to add something to it to make it different from AVP One, so thus the predalien.
I didn't bother to stop to wonder about too much in the film. And things I did wonder about I just made up quick answers to satisfy myself. Like the Predator homeworld. The people who made the movie aren't going to waste a lot of time making a really complex world that's only going to be in the movie for five seconds, so I just assumed that their world is like Earth and has a lot of different ecosystems. Wolf happened to be living in some volcanic hell, instead of the tropical side of the planet or whatever.
And with the predalien's weird mouth impregnation thing...I just assumed that (at least for this movie) certain aliens can reproduce that way. The film-makers had to come up with some way for a handful of facehuggers to turn into 10 million aliens without a queen and eggs. And their solution makes as much sense as any other to me. I mean, why would an alien not be able to replicate itself somehow and implant the fetuses into a host without going through the facehugger stage if they needed to?
I mean, on a thinking scale the movie was probably a 1.5 or 2. Obviously it doesn't compare to the real Aliens and Predator movies, but I was entertained and that's all I really wanted from it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fair point well made.

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That was my favourite bit of the whole movie. I couldn't stop laughing for about 5 minutes afterwards.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that with Resivelinction when people got killed... then again, I was stoned.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arm Romeo wrote:
Alternate Spideygal wrote:
Arm Romeo wrote:
Alternate Spideygal wrote:
I would die a happy woman if that happened.


I would kill a happy woman if that happened. After making sweet love to her ofcourse.


Are you coming onto me?


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No, but if you let me make sweet love to you I'll come into you. Or onto you... whatever you like better.


If I find myself in your neck of the woods...I'd have to say maybe.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And when are you ever in my neck of the woods?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what, are you guys necking already?
and there's a wood involved?
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Oh, if it ever happens, there'll definitely be some wood involved.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, yesterday I saw this movie... and damn, can't wait to see it again. I gotta admit that the first part is kinda boring but when the Aliens finally start killing people...

I always wanted to see a movie where Aliens started wreaking havoc in a place with lots of humans and it's here. I know, Aliens has that too, but still. This one has a Predator.

It's still not perfect though and there are quite some things that can improve it, but still, I think it's awesome.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh good to be back ranting!

That was my reaction after seeing the movie!

After the dissapointment the first AvP was, I swore I'm over with all the Preds and Aliens forever. I accidentaly found out about about the sequel while browsing on Youtube and stumbled across the famous 5 minutes trailer. From the scenes on it, the movie looked promising. Untill I clicked on it!

It has so may nags and holes I don't know what to start with!

The first minutes were fine, until the little shitburster shot out from Scar's body and the next second Hell broke lose in the Predaship. Which turned out to be a sort of school bus for young Blooded and Unblood Hunters. Where are the Predator warriors from the end of AvP? The Pred elder? There was at least 30 of them around the ship. Cuz all I saw were 2-3 predator morons who couldn't even shoot straight with a neuro-glided plasma caster. And dude, how moron do you have to be to shot blind in the reactor (or whatever was) room. Yep, that's why the ship crushed.

Then the alien. It grew up from chest-burtser to full adult in no time. Didn't they need time and food for that? Maybe he (ooops she, it was a queen, da bitch) eat the Pred Elder and ther rest of the crew.

A plus for this movie is that it gave us a glimpse of a pred city. They have buildings, and docking bay and the room where the hunter stood resembles vaguely like an appartment. That shows they are definitely NOT a nomadic species as fandom portrayted them. Their society might be even more similar with ours than we thought.

The characters were another kick-out. I won't even go to the human side of the movie who was totaly made out of anonymous, second-hand actors who played awful. Except maybe for the military lady. (And we have the equivalent of Ripley).

The aliens were nicely done. We got more glimpse with them, it's not that we haven't seen them before. Predaqueen was the best character from all the movie. It was a point where I could swear she has a higher IQ than the preddie hunter. That dude acted like he was retared or something. Even common aliens outsmarted him. One thing was clear, he was not out for hunting, but rather cleaning off the mess.

The fight scene was good, but not enough to redeem the movie. But exactly when I starting to enjoy it they ened it in the most lamest way possible. Dropping a bomb on everything.

Mr. Stause, you deserve a facehugger on your mug for that!

BTW, have you noticed a strange resemblance between ms Yutani and Lex? Speaking of who, were is she? In Antarctica under seven foot os ice, maybe.

On the bright side , the ending left the door open for a sequel.

The world is not ready for this technology!

This technology is not for our world.


Ohh, Is that a hint of a future humans/Preds war? I hope so.

Overall the movie had enough gore, guts and chep thrill to score like a horro
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AvP movies were never meant to be deep or especially memorable - just fun to watch. Neither of them comes anywhere near the first Alien or Predator, but as mindless, spectacular action flicks, they worked just fine IMO Smile The second was a huge improvement over the first in one thing: gore Very Happy

I didn't take a clear and detailed look at Yutani, but she looked Asian rather than black so no Lex connection there. As for Lex, I guess she just went back to the ship and lived happily ever after...as happily as you can with an alien symbol carved on your cheek, anyway Razz

One thing I wonder, is the Predalien actually a queen?
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It grew up from chest-burtser to full adult in no time. Didn't they need time and food for that?


Recall Alien or Alien 3? There the aliens growth were very rapid. Oh, and haven't seen the R yet... Aaah, maybe I'll watch it today.
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Yeah it was.
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Hmmm. I'll have to agree that the movie does start a bit slowly. Some awsome moments though like the pregnancy ward. But all on all I think this movie is more like Jurassic Park meets Scream... It doesn't have the suspense that the others had. This isn't sci-fi.

Well I must say all on all I'm happily disappointed. This wasn't that awful movie after all... for a teen movie I mean.
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