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Arucard
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:44 am Post subject: Double-Y chromo |
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Why oh why did no one EVER correct the director, or scriptwriter, or WHOEVER in Alien 3 that kept referring to males as double-y chromos?
We only have ONE Y chromo, and the chicks have NONE! We ALL have an X, it comes from the female's ova.
That's probably the biggest thing that bugs me out of ANY of the Alien movies |
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Aramor

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:47 am Post subject: |
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So true. I took it for granted when I didn't know it was wrong, but the minute I had this subject in Biology class I remembered the movie and knew it was erronous (that's like, when there's an error in it, right?). It totally freaks me out whenever I hear that line... _________________
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amyltrer

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Being a different sepecies , xenos might have 2 Y chromosoms (and a lot of X ones, hell knows) In fact their species weren't differentiated in males and females. The Qeen was a female (I hope), and the drones were........ neutres. Offfff, such a weird life cycle at thoses aliens.......
As for the chromosomes, i have only 2 X ones. That's for sure! |
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Aramor

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Yeah well, but in Alien³ thet were referring to the inmates as double-y chromo's... and those were just ordinary human males... _________________
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amyltrer

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| well, whatever... |
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Wrist-bladesRus
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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It is possible for a human, male to have 2 y chromosomes, but as u saw in the movie they are 1) extremily dangerous, b/c the Y chromo gives men their aparence and their features (including testasterone) so doble Y = dolbe the lv of testaterone which give u a very pumped up man. (the thing with the testaterone is not confirmed yet), and 2) they are also unstable, basically because of the same reason as 1).
Same thing works for women w/ triple X chromos, a gurl pumped up on estrogen is not a pretty site. (No offense to girls out there who read this post). _________________ VAMPIRES SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH |
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InvaderJess
Gender:  Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Always lurking in the shadows
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:38 am Post subject: |
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The only way it would be possible for a man to have two y chromosomes is if he were genetically altered. Same for a woman and having three x chromosmes. Human beings have two. One inherited from the mother, one from the father. Every sperm in the male body has either a y chromosome or an x chromosome which it carries and passes on after fertilizing the egg. Every egg in the female body has an x chromosome. Only an x chromosome because it can't contain something it's never had (as in a y chromosome). The only way an x chromosome is ever in the female body is after he squirts, or if she's preggy with a boy.
*I'm done now* |
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A1i3N

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:51 am Post subject: |
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I read somewhere it is possible for males to have a double Y and they are usually the ones who end up in jail cos they are all sktizo crazy people.
they might not all have had double y but it is also like an expression sorta thing for violent people who end up in prison. |
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Blaster Moderator

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Yeah. accidents with too many chromosomes can happen (e. g. Down Syndrome). But the fact that there is a whole prison full of them is a bit odd. Perhaps they were the result of some experimentation. Hmmm....or maybe that movie just sucked. _________________ Context is everything. |
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Aramor

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: |
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It's technically impossible for a human male to be double y. Caus that means that two males had to make out, and then that one of them got pregnant. He would also be missing certain genetical information, caus unlike the x, the y chromo doesn't hold any genetical information. So it's impossible to be double y. Also, with Down Syndrome, you have chromosome 21 three times (IIRC).
But hey, it's a science fiction movie. With fictional characters. F.I.C.T.I.O.N.A.L characters. Am I getting through to you at all?
Sorry, just had to quote Ben Affleck...  _________________
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Arucard
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Fictional characters and stupid scriptwriters who come up with fictional biology. |
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amyltrer

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Look guys, there may exist:
XXX - The super-female sindrom;
XXY - The Klinefelter sindrom (all four from above)
XXXY -
XYY -
XXYY -
A human may have more Y chromosoms, but it must have at least one X chromosome (there is XO - the Turner sindrom) YY forms are aborted in the first 2 weeks of pregancy.
now start with the disscusins about biology! this is a forum about aliens and predators only!  |
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Aramor

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| amyltrer wrote: | Look guys, there may exist:
XXX - The super-female sindrom;
XXY - The Klinefelter sindrom (all four from above)
XXXY -
XYY -
XXYY -
A human may have more Y chromosoms, but it must have at least one X chromosome (there is XO - the Turner sindrom) YY forms are aborted in the first 2 weeks of pregancy.
now start with the disscusins about biology! this is a forum about aliens and predators only!  |
Are you sure? I never read anything about this in my biology books... I'd like to go through your source material...
Oh wait, we hated each other right? Uhm... you suck... sorta... you know...
Wanna start smiting each other? _________________
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amyltrer

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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This is basic genetics (in my biology book at least). What are you learning in your schools?
HAHAHA! You have no chance! It wasn't born yet the boy who'll smite me! |
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Aramor

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well, we never learned about anything with XXX/XXY/etc...
You just wait, when I get enough juice, I'll smite you like you've never been smote before!  _________________
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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TAht is because Romanian books are better than Norwiegian ones, one good aspect of communism is that they reformed the education system for the better, well at least the learning material _________________ VAMPIRES SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH |
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amyltrer

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Wrist-bladesRus wrote: | | TAht is because Romanian books are better than Norwiegian ones, one good aspect of communism is that they reformed the education system for the better, well at least the learning material |
Good aspect?
Stii ce neplacut e sa inveti 5 pagini de genetica si sa iei 3 pentru ca n-ai stiut cum se numea manastirea aia idioata unde a efectuat G. Mendel experimentele pe mazare?!  |
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amyltrer

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| Aramor wrote: | Well, we never learned about anything with XXX/XXY/etc...
You just wait, when I get enough juice, I'll smite you like you've never been smote before!  |
Lemon juice, please. It has a very strong anti-smiting effect |
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Aramor

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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It does?
Anyhoo, what the hell did you just say earlier on? _________________
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Aramor wrote: | It does?
Anyhoo, what the hell did you just say earlier on? |
Learn Romanian! |
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Aramor

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:27 am Post subject: |
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I'll learn Romanian when you learn Dutch! _________________
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| Aramor wrote: | | I'll learn Romanian when you learn Dutch! |
I've learned 17 words in Dutch until now. What progress have you done? |
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Aramor

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:32 am Post subject: |
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None. Ok, what are those 17 words? Do you know how to make sentences with them? And with that I mean other sentences than the one you originally got them from. _________________
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| Aramor wrote: | | None. Ok, what are those 17 words? Do you know how to make sentences with them? And with that I mean other sentences than the one you originally got them from. |
ik haten jou. waar est mijn citroen sap? ik begeerte het nou. ik hopen jou erop nahouden een Roemeens woordenboek.
jou inblikken schrijven me iets in roemeens? |
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Aramor

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Well, your grammar is way off. And some words aren't Dutch. I'll tell you what you probably meant: Ik haat jou. Waar is mijn citroen sap? Ik wil het nu. Ik hoop dat je een Roemeens woordenboek hebt. Je moet er even in kijken en iets in het Roemeens schrijven.
That last sentence I'm not sure about... jou inblikken... what the hell does that mean? _________________
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