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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:32 am    Post subject: In need of your opinion... Reply with quote

First, I would like to say that I am only interested in hearing honest and MATURE responses in this thread. This question is *very important* to me. Just want that cleared up before I start ;P

Anyway, I am near completion of reopening my website after nearly a 7 month hiatus. Boy, a lot of me has sure changed since June of 05'.

But of course, that change is why I am asking this question...

My website was originally going to be a simple online dairy of sorts and nothing more. But now I have poured much more effort into it than I anticipated. This is not a bad thing, but my subject of my content has changed as well and it has made me come to a wall on a important decision.

As some of you know, I draw mature artwork and I also dabble in mature fanfic and general literature, both fictional and non-fictional. This can range from sex, to gore to just sensitive issues that people would usually not talk about.

The question has now raised: Do I put viewing restrictions on these certain blog posts that have this content and make people sign up for a account to see it? Or do I have the content public but just put a big warning before each link to the post so the visitor knows the content is mature in nature?

Here's how I see it:

If I make the posts private and make people sign up....Pros: (1) I know that I will never be dooced, and if I ever am, then it was my fault for letting someone have an account that I did not properly check if they knew me in RL. (2) It prevents young kids from stumbling onto the content, and having to hear from their irresponsible parents. (3) It lets me know who is viewing this content so I can control it to prevent stealers and plagarism. (4) I get to know my readers better if they have to sign up, and I can pick out my visitors from the guests.
Cons: (1) I don't want to have to really put up with juggling a community. (2) People will abandon their accounts eventually, and those accounts will add up on my server space (but I can probably run a database prune and delete inactive accounts, but I have not checked if such a thing exists yet) (3) People generally do not want to sign up for things if they really do not know what they are getting...bugmenot.com comes to mind...

And of course...the opposite is for the other option. If I make my content public, there's a much larger chance of getting dooced and I am opening myself up to attack by people who do not understand the concept of keeping their rude comments to themselves if they happen to stumble on my Pred on Human action pics (most of you have seen the fiasco in the AVP pr0n thread, as well as other mature-oriented threads which include the Aliens and Predators and generally anything else that has to do with geeky fandom...). And of course, I really do not have control over my content...but the people who want to see it will be able to see it without signing up for an account on my blog, and then I do not have to contend with handling accounts.

I personally do not really care if my content is public. Most of you know that because I have posted some of my crappy adult sketches in the AVP pr0n thread. But as stated, there are some caveats to my actions...I just cannot make up my mind.

What is your view on this? What would you choose? You are my audience, so to speak. I am the blogger, and you represent my readers: the general internet user.

Any feedback is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not-very-facetious:
Or, the easy way out would be just to put up risque stuff that doesn't show nipples, penises, or pubic hair. Then you can't be accused of anything, because all of your content would still be PG-13, no matter what it is you've drawn.

As the man here with undoubtedly the most legal experience and knowledge on the forum (none), I'd say if you don't care about whether people see it or not, just don't put up anything that you have to cover your ass for. If you're trying to churn out a profit, you can preview risque stuff w/o visible nipples, pubic hair, or cocks to try and capture an audience into that sort of thing before making them pay.

Facetious:
If I may make a request... how about a pred resembling me as a poolboy getting 'bizay' with an older businesswoman?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I'd just have a warning before each link. Anything more than that is just too much hassle. Reasonably, if you have a warning or disclaimer, then you should be okay. I'd point you out to legal advice, but I'm not a lwayer. (I've worked for a couple, but they were in different fields.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crotchfire wrote:
Not-very-facetious:
Or, the easy way out would be just to put up risque stuff that doesn't show nipples, penises, or pubic hair. Then you can't be accused of anything, because all of your content would still be PG-13, no matter what it is you've drawn.


I do draw that kind of stuff, and I find it to be rather hot, much more in fact than the actual penetration. But hey, I'm a perv, I draw the penetration too...

Quote:

As the man here with undoubtedly the most legal experience and knowledge on the forum (none), I'd say if you don't care about whether people see it or not, just don't put up anything that you have to cover your ass for. If you're trying to churn out a profit, you can preview risque stuff w/o visible nipples, pubic hair, or cocks to try and capture an audience into that sort of thing before making them pay.


This is all for enjoyment and totally not for profit nor will it ever be for profit in the future.

But you do have a point with the PG-13 stuff...maybe I should do that, and if I decide to draw the really nasty stuff then I can just share that among close friends (and of course with you nice people here at the forum ;P) Still need more opinions though...I should of opened a poll!

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Facetious:
If I may make a request... how about a pred resembling me as a poolboy getting 'bizay' with an older businesswoman?


This can be arranged...


Ipsa wrote:
Personally, I'd just have a warning before each link. Anything more than that is just too much hassle. Reasonably, if you have a warning or disclaimer, then you should be okay. I'd point you out to legal advice, but I'm not a lwayer. (I've worked for a couple, but they were in different fields.)



*nod* I was going to issue two warnings: big outstanding text above the clean excerpt that says it is NSFW, and also have the acronym "NSFW" in the title of the post. They will have to click a link to get to the actual content. This will aplly to my RSS feeds as well.

All of my content will be legal by United States law, especially with the pedophilia...that's just nasty. If it wasn't then I couldn't be on my current host; they allow all content, as long as it follows all entertainment laws of the US.

But none of you have mentioned the dooced part. My father knows I own siliconsara.com and he's one of those hard military men. I don't think he would kill me as much if it was tasteful sex (which is what I enjoy drawing the most) but still, it's hard to say what he would do. He lives on the other side of the continent, so all he can do is yell at me over the phone (lol) but still, I don't know...I am an adult, and I have my own life, but that feelings of pleasing the parents is stronger.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sē wrote:
But none of you have mentioned the dooced part. My father knows I own siliconsara.com and he's one of those hard military men. I don't think he would kill me as much if it was tasteful sex (which is what I enjoy drawing the most) but still, it's hard to say what he would do. He lives on the other side of the continent, so all he can do is yell at me over the phone (lol) but still, I don't know...I am an adult, and I have my own life, but that feelings of pleasing the parents is stronger.


I understand completely about wanting to please one's parents. I'm just beginning to break away from that, and the distance makes it a lot easier. I guess the most you could really do is screen comments, have a thingy that says rude/tasteless/attacking/mean coments will not be tolerated? That's assuming that you don't go with the having log in/community stuff. But I am one of those users who won't really comment on things unless it's spectacular. If someone is adamant about telling you their opinion, then there's really no way to stop them. Unless you kill them, but that doesn't go over well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post disclaimers. That should cover your ass. If it works for porn sites, it should work for you. Everyone knows that there's porn on the net.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd actually go for the accounts, for NSFW stuff. Anything SFW I think should be public.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I am leaning toward the following:

WordPress (the blog software I use) has the feature of password-protecting single posts. Each post can have its own unique password. Any visitor (with an account or not) can put in the password and view the content of the post.

That way, I can set passwords to certain posts, and give these passwords to people whom I know will want to see the content. This also allows you nice people to continue to see my work without having to sign up at yet *another* place. I can just give links to the permapages of my stuff and include a password so you can all get in there and see it.

And that way, I don't have to handle accounts, and the people who I give the passwords to can share the password with their friends who share the same interests...so the people who I am trying to reach will be reached without having to sacrifice all of my privacy.

Then my good ol' daddy-kins won't be able to see the posts. But, the post title will be visible and it will say that the post is protected. However, he would probably think that it has to do with some girly crap instead of hardcore Pred porn. If he does suspect something, then at least I can break it to him gently instead of him going to my site and seeing the rampant alien fornication everywhere. Gotta lessen the impact a bit...

The worst problem I see with this is keeping up with the passwords. But I can always record them somewhere on my computer.

Tell me if this is a bad idea...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hower confusing that was to me, that actually seems like a good idea if you can pull it off.

Also, I wish you the best of luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, you worry too much. Make with the pr0n already! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will come soon, sir <3

Besides, someone's been pushing the button non-stop, and I haven't been able to sleep since! Duty calls!

And if I can see that the excerpt of each post can be seen without a password, then I am going to use the single post password system <3
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I certainly understand wanting to keep your adult art from being seen by parents and other sensitive individuals. My parents know about my various art sites and can google my name to find me anywhere else. So if I were going to start a site with a lot of adult content, I'd do it under a pseudonym. Keep a separate identity online which will give you the freedom to do what you want without it bleeding into real life.

Unless you're really determined to keep it all together on your original site or blog or whatever, I think that's really the only way to really ensure against your family seeing it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunatly, I am not one to hide behind a different name than my birth name. Every major internet name I have used has my first name in it (Sara).

I have had a point in my life where I had more than one website just to section off the adult stuff from the mundane, and the fun of drawing this stuff and writing turned into a chore, and I don't want that to happen again.

I am going to single-password-protect the posts. I have made up my mind on that. It will be a lot of extra work to protect this stuff on my main website, but it's worth it for me because I want everything in one place. That way, I can shift subjects and I don't have to worry about other sites that I no longer want to tend to.

That, and I think that if my dad decided to disown me because I draw this stuff, then let him. I don't want someone in my life that will not take me as I am.

Thanks to everyone who gave their opinion. No accounts...but simple single passwords, and of course disclaimers and warnings too!

Hopefully I will have some stuff to post in the AVP pr0n thread in a week or two ;P
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the other possibility? What if your dad gets off on your drawings? Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blaster wrote:
What about the other possibility? What if your dad gets off on your drawings? Shocked


Then he will be the most awesome dad in the universe <3

He's where I get my perverted-ness from, hehe.
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