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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww...is poor Simon having a tiny meltdown?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really. It's just extremely annoying. Someone is wasting so much time and money to perpetuate an industry running joke, for nothing.

Half Life 2 took six years to develop. That was worth it. Starcraft 2 took seven to develop. (They started work on it after WC3: Frozen Throne) That was worth it. Duke 3d has taken... fourteen. Fifteen when it's supposed to be done next year. And the demo is brown, brown, brown. Another generic brown FPS. They wasted all those years.

And it's going to come out, be utter crap, and yet sell by the droves. And gamers will wonder why no one else takes them seriously.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why are you complaining? Wasn't Duke Nukem always a FPS?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but it wasn't brown.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, but it wasn't brown.
Correct. I'm not against the Duke returning. I'd be all for it, given it was the right sort of comeback. But brown isn't that sort of comeback.

Duke Nukem, as far as I understand, was an affectionate parody of the action genre (both games and movies) at it's time. The senseless violence and mayhem, the one-liners, the overbrimming machismo and chauvinism, it really was taking apart what was awesome about action in the 80s and 90s and putting it all together again to make an ultimate action icon.

Now the basis for the Duke's existence is more or less gone, but that doesn't mean the Duke is irrelevant (which is what some people have been claiming). The Duke could return as a parody of the modern FPS. That shouldn't be too difficult a job, considering how much shooters have evolved since DN3d came out. The clusterfucks and prepubescent punks of Halo and Modern Warfare, weapon-carrying limits, cover systems, the RPG-like concepts being introduced in some shooters such as Borderlands, the constant overflow of various breed of space marines, the parodying could basically write itself. And oh yeah, the dogshit brown/gunmetal grey aesthetic would also make plenty good fodder too.

For instance, consider if you will, a weapon that blinds and then fries enemies with excessive bloom effects.

Duke Nukem could take these concepts and then add his own distinct flair to them. It'd be fucking great. But no, I saw what amounts to another Halo/MW-derived FPS. Complete with weapon carrying limits and brown. The demo showed nothing that was Crazy Awesome. That's a problem for a Duke Nukem game, which was all about the Crazy Awesome.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...at the risk of making myself look like a total n00b can you please explain to me what the heck "brown" is?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The TVTropes page on it.

Shamus' comic on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, that game needs to die.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't need to die - it just needs to be released as the kind of game that brought us the shotgun-toting pigs and aliens that were more alien than Alien. And not brown dammit!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess this means you won't be as pissed with the way they totally fucked up Medal of Honor.

It's Bad Company and Modern Warfare 2 put together.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess this means you won't be as pissed with the way they totally fucked up Medal of Honor.

It's Bad Company and Modern Warfare 2 put together.
A WW2 franchise is now set in the modern days of the Gunwanking Era? Where have I seen that before?

Btw, can't be pissed cause I didn't give a rat's ass (or two) about it to begin with.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, I never cared much about it either, just, there's enough noob tube shit in the gaming industry without MoH's help. What kinda gets to me is they're giving it anyway...

...And there's another Call of Duty coming out, too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, the brown can be forgiven.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon_Says wrote:
I think, the brown can be forgiven.

That's pretty... um... I-uh... what's that strange sensation in my pants?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gosh. Not even really that brown any more either. I still don't believe it's actually coming out though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. There'll be preorders and then suddenly, days before release, POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that would start a third world war...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And oh yeah, health isn't measured as health in this game, but as ego.

That's proper Duke right there.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The game is out. It's as disappointing as we all hoped it wouldn't be.

Behold, Total Biscuit's...
Run of the demo.
First 45 minutes with the game.
Thoughts five hours in.

Yeah. After seeing this I'm passing on DNF. Though frankly I had sorta give up hope when it was delayed that one last time. I think Yahtzee will have a blast with tearing this game a new one though. That'll be something to look forward to.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the videos and I can only say "I'm sorry" to all the naive souls that got tricked into believing that a 15-year-late sequel can be the ballsy shooting game they've been dreaming of.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The demo tried to sell me with a recycled boss fight, a finicky vehicle section and a goddamn turret section. You don't get to poke fun at Half Life when your high points are shit that got old in the ps1 era.
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